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the most to lose than anyone i know but the only way to fix the economy. >> eric: president obama wants tax cuts to expire for everyone except those making under $250,000 a year. john boehner plan "b" making $1 million. this looked like president obama coming back with the same deal at 250. they are miles apart. >> kimberly: you were able to speak to people on the hill. what was your reaction? >> andrea: the president spread the stories that he will come to the table with a deal. swan dive off the fiscal cliff, hold your nose. we're going off. president obama wants to us go off hecht will come back with a largeer plan. the obama tax cut. then he will be able to reintate across-the-board sequestration cuts. 8.2% across the board. cut defense and health. they will be able to reintate a lot of programs and give his caucus the opportunity to say look, i am voting for something. i am voting to restore tax cuts for the middle class. voting to restore great thin things. republicans are in a tough position. no one will say vote to restore the tax cut for rich. this is his game plan from day one. >>
, the obama tax cuts. then he will be able to reinstate those across-the-board sequestration cuts to gut things like defense, national institutes of health. he will be able to reinstate a lot of programs and give his caucus the opportunity to say, look, i am voting for something and to restore tax cuts for the middle class. i am voting to restore the great things. and the republicans are going to be in a really tough position because no one's going to say, let's vote to restore the tax cuts for the rich. this is his game plan from day one. >> what's the alternate sniff $250,000 and above -- everything we see -- obama is not offering cuts at all. he is lock looking for spending. >> he is managing the message. so it seems like he's being conciliatory. boehner hassen a lot of heat. he has taken a ton of slack on this. he was given a tential hand of cards. but he came to the table. he tried to at least bring something to the floor. mitch mcconnell knows he is not going to be able to pass anything, any tax cuts. kimberly that, wouldn't pass the senate. let me tell you that. >> allow me to int
. now time for your h comments. writing into their hope barack obama gets all the taxes he wants. i'll bthe first to say i toldd you so when the consequence happens.n t people learn the hard way.n obama never negotiate, he just demands something of complaints. when he doesn't get what he wants. he is far more mature than that, don't you think? we will keep thinking about that. thank you for your comments. we love hearing from you. we love hearing from you. >>> a massive winter storm wreaks havoc bringing blinding snow and devastang tornadoes. at least six are dead, over a thousand flights canceled nationwide stranding holiday travelers and worries things could get worse. welcome, i'm eric bolling in for neil cavuto and this is your world and we're tracking a deadly winter storm as it makes its way towards the east coast. in indiana, heavy snow stranding dozens of vehicles asolkseal with blizzard. a foot in bloming to know. across the south and southst 34 twisters leveled homes. in mississippi for than 25 people injured and 70 homes damaged. that number expected to rise. the storm kn
to approach this. obama got to go on vacation in hawaii. >> eric: taxes revert to the bush tax cut expire and president obama says republicans look at this. tax cuts for everyone making under 250. can republicans say no to tax cut in 2013? >> andrea: it will be tough. not tougher than the p.r. battle they are fighting now. i think he wants that scenario, eric. i think obama thinks going off the cliff is a win for him so he can pass the obama tax cut and say look, i'm bringing in revenue. i lowered the deficit. pass his tax cut. a win and he can blame the g.o.p. i would argue i don't think the g.o.p. had the ball on this fight. i don't think they gave it up. i don't think they had it. it's very tough for them to win against the white house like this. and a white house press corps that is not going to report anything negative against the president. >> eric: the ball is a debt ceiling. remember, all the negotiations, tell you, i'll get to greg, they have to go through the house. money negotiations go through the house. if the house says no on raising debt ceiling they can create havoc. go ah
in tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? allegedly we understand president obama came back to him and said, you get nothing. i get that for free. you get nothing. >> there were a couple eye-opening quotes. a "wall street journal" story before christmas that went through the timeline of how this happened between painer and the president -- boehner and the president. boehner put the rough knee on the table and the president saying that's what i get out of the gate. you get nothing for that, which was a surprise to the speaker. he said if we go over the cliff, that the president threatened boehner, he said i will use my inaugural address to blame you for tax increases and for the fiscal cliff going overboard. that brings out pretty big guns when it comes to a president's bully pulpit. if atlantes to use that to play politics, that's significant. >> i have to bring this up. but how did they get to the point where the speaker tried to bring a vote to his caucus to be rejected? how did they not see that coming in why did he bother trying to bring the vote? >> because there's two
and said he was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. meeting this the red room, president obama held firm for tax cuts for families making up to $250,000 per year, and joining me on the north lawn of the white house is kristen welker. kristen, let's listen to what the president said about and up or down vote or what he expects from the senate. >> i had a good and constructive discussion here with the leadership about this tax hike on the middle-class. i am optimistic that we can reach an agreement that will be passed in both houses. if an agreement is not reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor and up or down vote for the floor, and i believe a p proposal could pass both houses with majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be be the big news of the day, and isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is. it is prp's way of sayi
-term that the republicans can win if he gets his way, if he passes the obama tax cuts, if we go off the cliff and the economy does slide into recession. if we do get downgraded because there's not enough spending. in the long-term, the economy will suffer, but republicans may be able to say we tried to stop this, this is obama's deal, now he owns it. >> but they need to do better with communicating that exact message, really, if you look at what's going on here, obama has been persistent and bullheaded saying, it's my way or no way and i think he can wants to go over the cliff to demonize and at the same time bullying the middle class. >> and in the short-term run, that it is inevitable that the democrats will say you guys, you republicans, you put us offer the cliff because you were defending your rich millionaire friends, it's inevitable they will say that and that's a winning political line in the short-run. and over that, however, and you ask where is the leadership from this president, where is it? >> and here, stuart. >> doesn't he agree with you. >> americans with funny accent. let me
no longer extending the bush tax cuts, but the obama tax cuts. president obama is associated with cutting taxes. there is political liability for them as well. the reality is they have to get off of this no tax increase nonsense. i read in the "new york times" the other day, no republican member of congress voted for it since 1990. do you believe that? we had two or three wars since that time? a tragedy at 9/11 and we had hurricane sandy. we had hurricane katrina and despite all of these, they are unwilling to raise them to support and fund our government. what does it say about the dysfunctionality? >> we will have to leave it there. happy holidays to you. joining me now on the phone, congressman gregory meeks. congressman, i just saw you downstairs in the lobby about two or three hours ago and you were waiting on a phone call to determine when you might have to go back to d.c. to hammer out fiscal cliff matters. have you gotten the call yet? >> we are still waiting. >> no word as to when you guys are going back? no sense of urgency? >> i think there is a sense of urgencey and we have to
to be hammered out shall the threshold for extending the push tax cuts and president obama campaigned and sounds like, 400,000 may be where they're heading. a leader says that permanency is key, and fixing the death tax and a permanent solution for the alternative minimum tax which threatens 28 million americans every year, would also help win republican support, heather. >> mike emanuel reporting from washington with the latest, thank you, mike. >> kelly: heather and mike, thank you very much. and president obama trying to light a fire under congressional lawmakers, urging them to come up with a deal after friday's bipartisan white house summit. >> we're now at the last minute. and the the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> kelly: so the question becomes, why can't washington seem to work this out? why has it taken so long when they knew they had this fiscal cliff coming to them? joining me now for a fair and balanced debate on the topic, angela mcglowan is with us, and mark hanna, a strategist and former aide to the john
? $1 trillion of obama care taxes begin in january. that's not even part of the fiscal cliff. that's in addition to the fiscal cliff. we're looking at an avalanche of regulations that were drawn up in the first four years of the obama administration, but then conveniently only beginning to be made public after the president's job was secure. his job is secure. now yours may not be, because hundreds of billions of dollars in regulatory costs are hitting the economy. look at what epa and others are doing. >> right. but grover, speaking of magicianship, you appear to be doing that right now. it looks like rates will increase. that technically is not a good thing for you and your pledge. >> it's a very bad thing for the economy, because what they're talking about is some -- allowing the rates to go back up, not just back up. remember, we go back -- the bush tax cuts disappear and you add the obama care tax increases. so they're taking the top rate not to 39.6, but to 43.4 for half of all small business income in the country. and people at high income earners of the united states. add t
for is increasing taxes that will only pay for 8 1/2 days of government spending. now president obama has not been a leader on this. he's not been serious. he's been acting weak and, of course, clinging to his radical ideology. enough is enough. maybe it's time to have the republicans call the president's bluff. let him take the country over the fiscal cliff if he so chews. republicans were elected to get the fiscal house in order. maybe it's time to stand up for your kids, your grandchildren. maybe they should dig in their heels and say they are looking out for the future and future generations. maybe now is is a time to take a principle stand and say they are not going to let washington continue with the out of control spending, the debts and deficit. maybe now at this moment maybe that's the right thing to do. joining me now with reaction to the developing steer are congressman loui gomert and -- go ahead. >> i can totally with him that he cannot imagine our consciouses in the house because you would have to have one to imagine ours, and he's shown repeatedly over three years of no budget? come
the obama care tax that's coming and the tax, the disappearing bush tax increase and this hits primarily as you know, small business owners and people who file subchapter s corporations. >> that's not who is primarily hits, it hits some of those people. >> over half of all the small business income that ends up paying this higher rate, if you do it. and the last time we did this, more than two-thirds of the people who got hit, were actually the subchapter s corporation. i think it would have a very significant effect. the other effect it has is that we're not cutting spending because we're spending too much money. and that sends a very bad signal. if we're not going to do entitlement reform, because every time we talk about it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this.
austerity way too quickly. president obama is not asking for that much in taxes. it's worth getting a bit of perspective in here. you'll be shocked to know, we got a graph for that. here's what happens if we go over the cliff. you get more than $5 trillion in tax increases off the bat. and now here's what happens if we pass the sainted simpson bowles plan. you've heard of the plan. they have 2.6 trillion in tax increases. president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans
, instead just voting to reinstate a tax cut, that then it sort of president obama's tax cut so he gets credit for that. >> do you have any sense of what will happen around that table today? who called the meeting if there's an agenda or are they going to sit around and stare at each other until one of them blinks? >> we don't have a sense. i'm sure that we will be getting a sense. this is supposed to take place at 3:00 p.m. at the white house. the vice president, president and four top congressional leaders. we don't know what will be said. i think we will likely hear from some camps afterwards. >> if you are wondering what a trip down the fiscal cliff might mean for your paycheck, for your 401(k), look no further than yesterday's dow. at the opening bell, a dive of more than 1%. investors finding little hope for the fiscal cliff compromise on capitol hill. when word came down two sides might be meeting. reversal of fortune. the dow rebounding for a while before finishing slightly lower. >>> a nation this morning remembering the american general credited with orchestrating one of the m
. let's write a new book. by the way, those are now going to be called the obama tax cuts. i'm calling it first. the obama tax cuts. he's going to write a tax cut bill, send it up to the hill, and they're going to pass it. >> expires on january 2nd. >> do we make them permanent, jimmy? 98% of them will be made permanent? >> i hope not. that is not the job of the government. the government's job is to raise taxes and to lower taxes when our economy needs it. that's what the senate does. john breaux, former senator john breaux from louisiana sat on the floor during the 2001 tax bill and said our job is to raise taxes when they need to be raised and lower them when they need to be lowered. that's the senate and the house's job. >> but, one man's -- is another man's -- if you look at the laugher curve you don't know when to raise and when to lower at this point. >> president obama kept bush's taxes in for two years. >> i know. >> but suddenly, you know, democrats like you love the 98%, and you hate the 2%. it's very weird. >> tell him, joe. >> don't hate the 2%. i'm not a self-loathing hat
of the taxes go up, lawyer, a as you know, on january 2. >> is it that bad for president obama if we go over the cliff, oh, throw the nation into recession and lose all these jobs but he views everything through a political lens does he not? >> he does. >> laura: i think they made the calculation this won't hurt them one bit and they have gotten the peg on the tea he party and boehner or something. >> the president has said that by the way of the negotiations and john boehner made the statement the other day that the president says look unless you give it my way i will bash you in the inauguration speech. but i want to ask a question to you. i mean why can't we simply we are at the edge of this cliff. every economist agrees that will do serious harm to the economy if we don't get an agreement. why doesn't the president agree to a six month extension on the current tax rates and work this out next year and what is so hard about that? let's put the economy over politics here. >> because the whole fiscal cliff which is a manufactured cliff essentially by both houses of congress happened because
of the plan. they have 2.6 trillion in tax increases. president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans is between democrats who love taxes, just want to tax everything. and republicans who totally grover norquist taxes, they hate them, that is not true. to a degree that kind of disturbs me, actually, the two parties mostly agree on keeping the bush tax cuts. up to $250,000 in income, which is a lot of income. republicans and democrats want to keep all the bush tax cuts.
. >> and if the bush tax cuts expire and president obama says, hey, republicans, look at this, tax cuts for everyone making under 250, can republicans say no to a tax cut in 2015? >> it will be tough but not tougher than the pr battles he's fighting right now. i think he wants that scenario. i think obama thinks going off the click is a win for him. he can say i am bringing in revenue, i am lowering the deficit. and he can still blame the gop when their tacks go up. i don't think the grass pollen had the ball in this fight. i don't think they gave it up, i don't think they ever had it. it's tough for them to win against a white house like this and a white house press core that's not going to report anything negative against the president. >> there's a ball and the ball is the debt ceiling. all these things, i will get to craig, but have to go through the house. the money negotiations have to go through the house. if the house says no on raising the debt ceiling, they can create a lot of havoc. go ahead, greg. >> you know what? i don't care anymore. >> oh, okay. >> because as a human being in this di
haven't learned that they're going to have to compromise. just hours ago, president obama returned home from christmas vacation. looking to jump start negotiations and protect millions from seeing their taxes go up. the news comes after a conference call that mr. boehner held with gop house members, telling them to return to washington this sunday. but just because they're coming back doesn't mean they're looking to play nice. today, senator harry reid blasted the speaker for refusing to even vote on a democratic plan that would protect 98% of americans. >> everyone knows that if they had brought up the house -- i'm sorry, the senate-passed bill that would give relief to everyone making less than $250,000 a year, it would pass overwhelmingly. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> a dictatorship of the speaker. and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing finge
, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but some republicans are saying they don't think that the tax rate should go up on anyone. so taxes still the major sticking point. right now the negotiations are going on the hill and there's a lot of optimism that came from the talks yesterday. of course, president obama hosted congressional leaders at the white house and they left that meeting and many said that it was constructive and they were optimistic that a deal could get done and i've been talking to my sources today and that same optimism isn't really present right now. there's more skepticism about a deal getting done and it is still very early in this process and this is a fluid situation so it could change on a dime, but that's what's going on behind the scenes and the white house monitoring clearly, what's happening. >> what's the president doing today? >> reporter: well, he doesn't
was modestly optimistic about a deal on taxes. speaking in the white house briefing room, president obama condemned congress for failing to resolve its differences in in normal way. he held firm to middle-class tax cuts to families making $250,000 per year. joining me now from the white house is nbc's kristen welker. kristen, let's take a look at what the president said about what he expects from the senate. >> i just had a good discussion from house leadership about how to prevent this on the middle class. i believe we can reach an agreement. if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and sno senator mccollum, i will reach to him. i believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities as long as the leaders allow it to actually come to a vote. if members of the house or the senate want to vote no, they can. but we should let everybody vote. >> kristen, this up or down vote seems to be the big news of the day. isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is and it's president obama's way of saying, look, vote on his basic proposal, the
about raising taxes on rich peel. obama care does raise taxes on rich people to pay for health insurance for poor people. that is fact number one. number two, as you are ringing in the new year, think about the fact that health care for the poor will actually be improving this year. there are more than 50 million people on medicaid. medicaid is the main program used to give health care to the poor and to the children in this country. medicaid is super cheap. it is way, way cheaper than private insurance or medicare. and in part it is so cheap because it pays doctors a lot less than those programs do. that means a lot of doctors, particularly primary care doctors, don't want to participate in medicaid or they can't afford to. so a lot of folks on medicaid have trouble actually getting care. doctors who accept medicaid coverage are going to see a 73 -- primary care doctors i should say. a 73% raise in 2013. which means those folks will have more access to more doctors. so we're not just expanding health care for the poor in 2014. starting in 2013 we're making it better health care. that is
cliff package that president obama laid out on friday, which moved the tax hike needle to $400,000. no word yet on when the house of representatives might come back, but democrats say the only hope we have of something getting through the house, the senate and the white house may be a very last-minute deal. cnn radio's lisa is following developments on capitol hill right now. the ball is in senate majority leader harry reid's court it would seem right now, lisa. >> that's right. harry reid and the senate seem to be the only game in town right now with the senate returning today. we also know from sources, ali, that over this christmas break there were no conversations between the president and top-level republicans. sources from both parties are telling us they are watching the senate, especially the democratic leadership in the senate. we also know yesterday house republicans came out with a statement saying that he will act only after the u.s. senate acts. we're not sure what the senate will do, as you say, we're expecting that smaller deal. what exactly will they vote on? pe
combined mpg c-max hybrid. >> julia: in four days several taxes tied to obama care will go in to effect including the medical device tax. healther found out it is about to impact every american. good to see you. >> that is right. this will pact every consumer. a new tax coming out. the tax will be put on devices that range from mri's to prosthetics and items in every doctor's office and veterinary offices. it will be passed alongg to consumers and manufacturers say it will result in job loss and stifle innovation and upon send jobs over seas. we went to one manufacturer. adm electronics that employs 19 people to ask them what it means for their industry. >> your company is about to be hit with a 2.3 percent tax on medical devices. >> it means more. it is on gross sales and that can hurt the number of people working for us and number of sales and increase the costs of our device. >> this is a family run business and been in business 40 years. how does it plea out for your company? >> we tried not to lose our employees because we are like family and the devastating impact we may not be ab
the absence of spending cuts on president obama and they know the taxes will go up anyway regardless of what they do if they don't pass anything and they would make the argument they would limit the tax cut and speaker boehner has made the same argument. >> thank you so much. we want to show people what is going on with the after markets because even though john says people are optimistic the markets are not optimistic. right now if the dow jones industrial average were to open at this moment it would be down 315 points. that's a reflection of the futures trading that happens in the after-hours. we'll see how asia opens on monday and right now the markets do not like what they see. they are not optimistic at this point and maybe if a mini deal gets done, a mini deal is not enough to deal with what the country faces. after all of this time the president still wants congress to come up with a plan instead of assuming the leadership mantle himself. let's talk to a member of congress about that. james langford serves in the house budget committee and he joins me now. sir, have you conceded you'r
-cuttingest democrat in the history of the republic. and the bush tax rates will be replaced by the obama tax rates. so he knows he's in a better position than they are. the question is as the clock ticks down and markets become anxious and capital becomes scarce and people are worried about what's going to happen out there, that the president has to think as much as he'd be better off then -- and, certainly, senator barrasso makes a good point about that -- the president's going to have some gut-check moments while he's out on the golf course and looking at the blue pacific, he's going to have to think can his second-term presidency really begin in the midst of a recession, and is he going to be okay with that? gregg: all right, so the clock is ticking, but there's another clock we're keeping a close eye on. i mean, we're talking about the debt clock. look at that, $16.3 trillion and growing second by second. and the president instead of focusing on cuts, he actually demanded even more spending, new stimulus, additional spending. maybe he doesn't think that $16 trillion is a real problem even though y
direction with respect to tax. president obama has shown no leadership on this. what they really need to do is minimize the damage from what president obama is trying to push for the higher tax cuts because they're going to need public opinion on their side in the new year to really make entitlement reform because at the end of the day, we're ohm talk being tax. we know $16 trillion in debt. the real problem right now is entitlement spending because at 62 to 65% of the federal budget. we've got this problem ballooning by the hour w. got to do something about it. right now i think house republicans are going to have to take it on the chin and get the deal because we need public opinion on our side. >> heather: alexis, will they get it done? >> i hope so. i think the lack of leadership has been on the house side. speaker boehner couldn't even get his own bill passed. so he's been fumbling the ball. i think what the president is doing with the up or down vote is trying to bring oversight to the american people in the spirit of the holidays, he's trying to let the american people decide who has
obama offered what he detailed in the speech a week ago keeping tax rates where they are for families earning less than $250,000 a year, extending long term unemployment insurance policy, and that bit of detail he gave a week ago in a speech is basically derived from the larger deficit proposal offered over, really, the last couple years as president of the united states. we're waiting whether or not in the meeting, lasting an hour at the white house, started at 3:10, is whether or not they made progress towards changing that proposal in a fashion to pass the house of representatives or make it viable for some senate republicans to join with that. the president, the administration officials say they offered the proposal as a way to get republicans to come back with something else, they say. if not, the president wants this plan to be voted on in the house and to be voted on in the senate. this proposal is unlikely, would be making it through the house unless there's progress made off the president's opening offer, a very old offer, then we're in trouble. back to you david: that's why
as a tax hike and believing the bush rates intact and then calling it a tax cut and seems to matter to them and completely share the skepticism to sign off on anything you're talking about but from the democratic perspective, the reporting s suggests obama putting on the table is 250 refundable. like that would be included, too. unemployment insurance. the dock first. the amt fix. included in anything. no matter what. i guess my question is, when you get the added leverage of the bush tax cuts expiring and the country probably blaming republicans for it, what is the rush for obama right now to do a deal? >> reporter: that is the suspicion that's shared by a lot of republicans taking it, steve, as almost an article of faith of three weeks, a month, that the president actually wants to go over the cliff and i'm not sure if that's true. i have no way of knowing if that's true. i kind of doubt it. if you look at it, the republicans lose a lot of leverage. they have painted themselves in to this corner. there's no denying that fact. john boehner obviously we know what happened last week. sifting
taxes even more. so that is the pushback that officials are giving to that republican criticism. having said that, they remain optimistic moderately so at this point that something will get done. and of course, president obama sort of continuing his public campaign to pressure congress, not only republicans, but also, democrats who have expressed skepticism about this deal and not getting enough in new revenues. the president saying, look, this is not a perfect deal, not grand bargain, the big deal they had initially hoping for and working on but it is a deal nonetheless and will prevent at least part of the fiscal cliff set to go in to effect in a matter of hours now. >> mike, we talk a lot here about the sequester, the income tax rates for the wealthy and other issues that need to be resolved or one on the table. one that's not on the table, the payroll tax extension is just gone. unemployment insurance extension looks like it's part of this. and medicare dock fix. you have any sense of two other things that obama's been looking for here? one is an extension of the expansion of the re
between the white house, the senate, the congress moves to pennsylvania avenue. president obama meeting behind closed doors with house speaker boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talking about doing something to keep more than trillion dollars in tax increases and cuts from taking effect next week. also joining that party today, america's happy warrior. vice president joe biden will be there. while some appear ready to compromise others are still ducking, dodging, trying to dump the blame elsewhere. >> we all have our ideas and in the senate, you're right. we probably another 40, 50, 60 of saying that we're ready to both raise revenues and control entitlements. when's the missing ingredient? it is presidential leadership. >> i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing. >> am hopeful there will be a deal that avoids the worst parts of the fiscal cliff, namely taxes going up on middle class people. >> it's pretty apparent that we are not going to do what we've been called to do. this is 112th congress. we have had two y
. >> for decades. >> president obama has presided over the lowest tax rate in mod hern history and decades. we're trying to role back taxes for people making over $250,000 a year. what john boehner is doing by letting us go off the fiscal cliff is raising every american's income taxes in about a week by not negotiating with the white house. he -- he's in a awkward position, he can't even get his own party to back his own republican proposals, so what we're seeing is congressmen and congress women are on vacation, senate is in session, the white house is there. everybody's working except congress. >> you know and i know congress is coming back sunday. michelle, talk about this. mark says it's not a revenue problem. it is a revenue problem, it's not a spending problem. what do you see? >> z we're not on the verge of fiscal cliff, we have already gone over the of fiscal cliff. look at our problem with spending, how bloated our government is. we're $16 trillion in debt. something needs to be done. this year we're going to spend $165 billion more than we receive in social security. $3 we're going t
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that every obama has tried to do. it's really over a tax increase, and for what? it's really to stop primary challenges. that's what this is all about. i mean, it's really bringing the country to a standstill for their own political short term. >> "new york times" is talking about the urgency issue in all of this, and lacking urgency that we have witnessed. they say, yeah, with days left before the fiscal punch lands, both sides are exhibiting little sense of urgency. rather than to foster progress. perry is that the biggest thing, the primaries moving out of this and how everything looks back? >> i think there are two things going on. the first is democrats generally feel they won a man dade. they're not backing down -- the second thing is the primary issue. you have members of congress say last week there was a proposal to raise taxes, and a lot of republicans said i can't vote for that, a million only tax increase. they were worried about primaries. that's driving this in a very strong way. >>> there are people in washington, d.c. that will tell us this is how it all happens. congressman
obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class, which will mean letting them expire for the rich. that will net somewhere around $600 billion in new tax revenue. the white house will pocket that. they will have got in three quarters of what they wanted last year, before even the negotiations had really kicked off. then we're going to go over the cliff and the pressure will mount quickly to strike another deal. republicans are still going to want entitlement cuts sop the white house will insist that the next deal include a dollar in tax increases for every dollar in spending cuts. so in that next deal, image republicans want $800 billion in spending cuts, a number of they've kicked around before. democrats will say they need that much in t
of wealthier americans. of course, president obama wants to see the bush era tax cuts extended for those making $250,000 or less while letting it raise on those making more than that. that $250,000 figure is up for debate and is up for compromise. i can tell you that republican leaders on the hill fired back saying he was more interested on assigning blame than getting something done and leading while they are trying to hammer out a deal. that is where things stand right now at the white house. clearly watching these developments quite closely. >> kristen welker, thank you. we will be checking back throughout the afternoon, as well. nchlts for more on where negotiations stand and whether a deal can be reached before the deadline we are joined by michigan democratic congressman. thank you for being here today. we are learning that negotiations have hit a major setback over a republican offer that includes entitlement changes. what exactly you hearing? >> i'm hearing just that. i think that the decision by senator mcconnell to bring up chain cpi is not a helpful step. it will effect the benefits
that president obama wants to raise taxes on. >> he was putting it at 400,000 senator, i want to move to the issue of guns. we heard what ray lapierre said earlier. he was singling out one of your colleagues. i want you to listen to part of his interview. >> you could ban all diane fine stein, done whatever you said to. she had insure bean and columbine occurred. >> is the revival of that ban, is that going to pass? >> i think that's a phony piece of legislation. >> so dianne feinstein was brought up i think five times in that interview. do you think this line of attack is going to work for the n perform a, piling on california lawmaker, from that state? pinches i think we have to take up all the issues. they mass killings have to stop and we have to do everything we can. it will include looking at how many bullets do you need in a magazine in a semiautomatic weapon? i don't know, but i'd like all the hunters to come to the table as well as the people who live in cities who do not want guns and want gun controls. we had need a real dialogue, not just a one-sided one. we need to talk a
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